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Jenshae Chiroptera 2346	Posted - 2015.10.29 22:24:17 - [1] - Quote Modern graphics cards the bottle neck is in the memory bus. The 970 has 256 bits vs 960's 128 bits. Ideally for gaming you want the 384 bit or higher but 256 suffices. (Which is why some older generation cards can actually be superior). The "Radeon R7 370" is roughly equivalent to the GTX 970 and is half the price. The only real reason to stick with Nvidia is if you are running Linux or something that might have compatibility issues. Valve converted many games to run natively on Linux and in the process discovered that Direct X was covering for a fault in Nvidia and hampered AMD's performance (caused some tearing and such (much of that has been corrected)). As games and programs adjust more as time goes by; it may well be that AMD will become far superior. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2348	Posted - 2015.10.30 20:06:28 - [2] - Quote Nafensoriel wrote: Also as to buses.. Yes a larger bus is better.. to a point. ... I should have qualified this by saying high end cards. The processing and RAM is usually more than sufficient, has been for multiple generations. The bus is usually the only thing you really want to keep an eye on and not only the card thrashing you can also run into motherboard problems if that bus speed is too slow to handle the graphics bus speed. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2353	Posted - 2015.10.31 21:21:53 - [3] - Quote Radeon R9 390 is 2x the card that the 970 Nvidiot card is. Additionally, it has new technology. All at the same price. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2353	Posted - 2015.10.31 21:55:29 - [4] - Quote Mag's wrote: ...While I'm no graphics card fan boy, (which you quite obviously are) ... You always have to throw a little back hander in there. I have been looking into this at quite some depth. Initially, I was going to go for the 760 Nvidiot for the ease of use with Linux but I have decided to go with the longer term approach and chew on the bugs in the mean time. The drivers will be superior. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2354	Posted - 2015.10.31 23:43:40 - [5] - Quote Mag's wrote: Well you are using the term NVidiot. Kinda points that way tbh. I've been involved in PC's since Windows 3.1. . Only Win 3.1?! You are a kid! Nvidiot comes from when they changed from plain fast drivers that you installed manually into a directory or selected from a Windows install wizard; to a pile of ever bloating software. I also use it now because they had a fault, which was covered up by a Direct X work around. That work around caused tearing and other problems in AMD cards, which were perfectly fine. Hopfrogg wrote: ... according to this: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.htm .... Benchmark websites are like your news channel, full of bias. http://www.techspot.com/review/1019-radeon-r9-390x-390-380/page3.html http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-390-vs-GeForce-GTX-970 (To be on the kind side, your link probably has results from Radeons that had problems. Their drivers are still in development.) CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2354	Posted - 2015.11.01 02:37:14 - [6] - Quote Except that in many cases the 390 isn't fully tapped yet. Driver updates may well increase performance further. Then you need to look at what they are weighing. Are they sending instructions to the cards, saying, "Calculate this and give us the gigaflops result," which would mean that memory and bus speed aren't tested? CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2354	Posted - 2015.11.01 04:16:25 - [7] - Quote Nafensoriel wrote: ... As to hardware.. NVIDIA has generally held the technology crown even though they often fail to utilize it(kinda like intel). .... Good post, however, just have a quick check on this. I often found that people would say Nvidia is better and yet, I would look into it and find that AMD had not released a top card on par with Nvidia's top card. Thus in many cases it was like doing a blouse up with the buttons in the wrong holes, Nvidia would look better all the way down, even on a lot of benchmark web sites but it was because the #2 Nvidia needed to be compared to the #1 ... That is a mess, basically: How it was Nvidia - AMD #1 Latest release - Not released yet #2 - #1 #3 - #2 etc How they were compared: Nv - AMD #1 - #1 #2 - #2 etc CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2354	Posted - 2015.11.01 05:49:53 - [8] - Quote Nafensoriel wrote: ...much like intel withholding things such as hyperthreading until there was a competitive need for it. That was annoying. Xeon had multi-cores and threads for ages before the regular processors got it. Then there was the 1GB RAM 386 machines dropping to 128 MB on Pentium 1s. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2366	Posted - 2015.11.02 18:49:24 - [9] - Quote Mag's wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Mag's wrote: I've been involved in PC's since Windows 3.1. . Only Win 3.1?! You are a kid! If you say so, fan boy. I prefer air conditioners. I still think of myself as a kid and I started with XT desktops using two floppy drives and no hard drive. My dad started with computers that resembled musical organ instruments. The drive was as big as a tumble dryer. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2369	Posted - 2015.11.03 19:08:34 - [10] - Quote Yourmoney Mywallet wrote: Two floppy drives! swoon Those sexy, sexy five inch floppy drives, one for DOS and the other for the game / application and storage. Then I upgraded it! Got the famous 512KB hard drive that according to Bill Gates could never be filled up in a person's life time! ... but wait! There is more! I got a graphics card for it, which did something like extend the memory to 128KB and gave me four colours instead of two!!! Crosses arms, makes Wu-Tang symbols and turns cap to one side I been pimping my PCs before it was cool! Leaves on a micro scooter while wearing a plaid outfit. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.

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